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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Ckermit for Unix and VTKeys
Date: 29 Jun 1995 13:02:43 GMT
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In article <DAs98L.F1E@omen.com>, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX <caf@omen.com> wrote:
>In article <3rutue$cum@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
>Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>that actually *do* have a keyboard and screen, it would seem to make sense
>>that Kermit should be able to see all the keys.
>>
>>Unfortunately, this is not the case. Most varieties of UNIX do not let
>>the application see the keyboard. There is no kernel function called "get
>>keyboard scan code". There is only read(), and read() reads a character,
>
>There is more available. Try "man curses" and take it from there.
>
No, that's not it. Users want to map, say, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-F7 to something.
Curses isn't going to tell you that the user pressed Ctrl-Alt-Shift-F7.
It doesn't even know what kind of keyboard you have.
>BTW I'm still waiting for a response to my repeated challenges
>for an honest, public rerun of the Columbia Unversity Kermit
>News "True-Life Benchmarks". Why keep stonewalling?
>
We had this discussion and fully aired our respective views a year ago
in comp.dcom.modems, at such great length and detail that when there was
finally nothing more to say and the discussion died down, a great sigh
of relief went up from the entire network. Nobody stonewalled. It's all
in writing, and neither one of us needs to waste another year rehashing it
all over over again, nor do our gentle readers need to suffer through it.
By the way, a new perspective on the Zmodem-vs-Kermit controversy can be
found in Tim Kienzle's new book, "The Working Programmer's Guide to Serial
Protocols". In it, he compares various aspects of the Kermit and Zmodem
protocols in a fair and impartial way.
- Frank